This is interesting - I was just checking Amazon for some of Brinch Hansen's older books, and discovered that he has an April 1999 issue with the title Programming for Everyone in Java - paperback, fortunately, and after a single click it is on its way. Dyke. -- ====================================================================== Dyke Stiles >>>>> new address!! dyke.stiles@ece.usu.edu <<<<< Professor and Chair, Graduate Committee Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering Utah State University Logan UT 84322-4120 Voice: +1-435-797-2840 FAX: +1-435-797-3054 Work: http://www.engineering.usu.edu/ece/research/rtpc/ Play: http://www.engineering.usu.edu/ece/research/rtpc/utah/utah.html ======================================================================